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- davidtowers, on 11/20/2008, -6/+29Dugg for brilliant title!
- IRAcarbombs, on 11/20/2008, -0/+11Claus shoots Hitler with "Kosher Ray Gun" for 20+damage and kills Hitler .... Claus gains "Mustache of Cruel Punishment".
- sanman, on 11/22/2008, -0/+1http://www.majipoor.com/work.php?id=737
- Huangism, on 11/21/2008, -3/+8because we can't travel back in time in reality
- honthraj, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1Actually, we might be able to if some alien culture has already mastered worm-hole travel and established landing points in the past already.
Remember - the universe is 13.7 billion years old.
Earth is only about 4 billion years old. Plenty of time for much more advanced cultures somewhere else in the galaxy or universe. - DiggzDE, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1Why dig him down? Under the current realm of known physics it is impossible.
Tachyon particles are our only hope currently, and as of right now they are only theoretical and we don't even have a theoretical plan on how to apply their abilities to atoms which have an actual mass.
- honthraj, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1Actually, we might be able to if some alien culture has already mastered worm-hole travel and established landing points in the past already.
- TheHydrogens, on 11/21/2008, -0/+3Somewhat of a comment hijack, but it is worth it:
http://www.badkarmaproductions.com/jc/?p=35 - banthis, on 11/21/2008, -2/+1I know why, because without him, we wouldn't be able to say "Bush is another Hitler" or "Same ***** different *****".
- TheOneTrueGod, on 11/22/2008, -1/+1I think that reason would be to lightweight.
- IRAcarbombs, on 11/20/2008, -0/+11Claus shoots Hitler with "Kosher Ray Gun" for 20+damage and kills Hitler .... Claus gains "Mustache of Cruel Punishment".
- mchrisco, on 11/20/2008, -0/+131I DID IT!
But it just started another parallel universe so you in this one can’t see that it worked.- jme77, on 11/21/2008, -0/+57
- YawehsDead, on 11/21/2008, -0/+9I know you kidding and all, but lets be clear, there's no way for any part of anything in this existence to be aware of a change made to the past.
- wdw25, on 11/21/2008, -1/+28@ YahwehsDead
Unless you were the ones time traveling. I saw Back to the Future 1, 2, & 3. - kenyadoit, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1Or if you are in the Terminator universe. Technically John Connor wouldn't have ever existed without Skynet. So which rules of time travel are we following here?
- fluidfoundation, on 11/21/2008, -0/+12Dugg for reminding me of Sliders.
- Velnich, on 11/22/2008, -0/+2... but just the first 2 seasons.
- fluidfoundation, on 11/22/2008, -0/+1Agreed.
- Homerr, on 11/21/2008, -0/+9Wait, you now have a goatee! Everyone knows that our evil twins have goatees.
- jitterbits, on 11/22/2008, -1/+1The internet has corrupted me. I was about to argue vehemently that No, we do not all have goatses.
Thinking of goatse before Futurama!
The sad, sad horror of it all.
- jitterbits, on 11/22/2008, -1/+1The internet has corrupted me. I was about to argue vehemently that No, we do not all have goatses.
- WiretapStudios, on 11/21/2008, -0/+4The show, or those little hamburgers?
- wdw25, on 11/21/2008, -0/+0mmmmm.... Sliders.... Well I'm off to White Castle. Anyone wanna go halfsies on a crave case?
- Geekazoid, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1I give you a hamburger
- JJ2K1, on 11/21/2008, -0/+21Why kill Hitler? Kill the people who started World War I and there would have never been a great world war with so many millions dead, Germany never would have had a reason to be angry for losing the war and paying stiff reparations, and Adolf would have grown up to be a psychotic painter and would never have built up Germany for a second world war..
- Radan, on 11/21/2008, -0/+6Exactly, the second world war was inevitable, with or without Hitler.
Also ironically, Germany was one of the few countries before WW2 were Jews were treated somewhat properly, which makes one wonder how the Jewish population would be treated today if WWII hadn't broken loose.
The 20th century was a ***** up time in our history, and far from as black & white, good guys vs. bad guys as many wants to believe it was. - CedEx, on 11/21/2008, -3/+3I don't want to be called anti-semitic... but why have the Jews been historically mistreated? I mean, throughout time, someone's always had it in for the Jews for one reason or another.
What's the root cause for that? - JJ2K1, on 11/21/2008, -3/+3@CedEx: Can't say i'm a historian and but you can look and see what they did to Jesus Christ.
- CarStan, on 11/21/2008, -0/+7because jews were the only one that gave out loans and credit in the dark ages (christians were forbidden to do so), and people back then already knew that banks are the cause of all evil
- Radan, on 11/21/2008, -1/+2@CedEx:
It has actually been a bunch of different causes through the years.
Of course there's the obvious "killing Christ" thing which got to upset a couple of christians.
However, in the 20:th century, the two biggest reasons that people disliked the Jews was partly the fact that everyone was very into the biology "superior race" thing, similar to why black people have been mistreated through the years.
The other reason was that the Jews for reasons I can't remember specialised in banking or more precisely, investing and lending money to people. This gave them a rather harsh reputation as people felt that it was unfair that these mere "guests in our country" who also mind you were seen as part of a lesser race, played with the native population's money to achieve a much higher standard of wealth than the rest of the people (in Germany it became ever worse since they didn't get anywhere near as affected by the inflation as much as everyone else). - kungfuzombies, on 11/21/2008, -0/+2@CedEx
Actually the origin would be with the Romans.
anything prior to that would be considered normal skirmishes with regional areas that everyone was going through.
the Romans came along and had alot of problems with continued Jewish rebellion which gave them a bad name.
the Romans then converted to Christianity which prior to that conversion the Christians had been looked at and lumped together with the Jews.
so to separate that image of a group of people who had a long history of upsetting the Romans (Jews). the Romans vilified them to a very high degree which then became part of religious indoctrination.
the actual viewpoint of Hitler was believed by several at that time and other points of history where religious beliefs of intolerance and the "blame game" had taken the deepest roots.
Germany happened to be one of the places Christianity was extremely strong.
after the Romans created that division and using the death of Jesus as the tool. it has throughout history morphed into other things, including the banking scenario mentioned by radan.
but it all comes down to Rome being the cause for it to create a division between the Christians and Jews.
(note this is the quick version of the history of it and no im not blaming the religion but the people who used it as a tool to further their own agenda happened to destory its meaning) - Griminald, on 11/21/2008, -0/+3That's it. I'm going back to the 1776 and helping the British win the War.
- Troy64, on 11/21/2008, -0/+3Not to be cold, but can you imagine if there was no WW! of WWII what the population of the earth would be now.
- zaferk, on 11/22/2008, -0/+1yeah i can... too many degenerates.
- Radan, on 11/21/2008, -0/+6Exactly, the second world war was inevitable, with or without Hitler.
- banthis, on 11/21/2008, -0/+3Are you saying I AM JUST A BETA TESTER?!
- TremorX, on 11/21/2008, -0/+8You're all the product of manipulated temporal events. Hitler's reign was the only choice that didn't end apocalyptically on a global scale. It was a tough choice, but one that I still stand by.
- mykotron, on 11/21/2008, -0/+3i actually think this is what would really happen. A new parralel universe would be created if one were ever able to travel back in time.
remember in back to the future where the picture fades? that always seemed rubbish to me. and i'm not even english - zaferk, on 11/22/2008, -0/+1Changing the past will lead to a different future, one where possible you wont have been born, so let Hitler live, and let history play its course.
- jme77, on 11/21/2008, -0/+57
- MadOgre, on 11/20/2008, -6/+34I remain unconvinced. Given the chance, I'd go for it... kill hitler and put Mousilini in charge of the whole thing. Italians rule the world.
Sure, all our cars would break down all the time... but the food would be be great.- jme77, on 11/21/2008, -0/+17
- DOCNM, on 11/21/2008, -0/+3fiat multipla lol
- Scrappy1850, on 11/21/2008, -0/+3who needs cars if the trains are reliable?
- DOCNM, on 11/21/2008, -0/+2if you are ok with ridiculous schedules, delays, strikes, accidents, lice, rats, ticks, overcrowding, broken toilets, smells and dirt...
- Scrappy1850, on 11/21/2008, -1/+2no, musselini made the trains run ON TIME. did you attend history class or was 3rd period when you were pulling bong rips?
- DOCNM, on 11/22/2008, -0/+2@Scrappy
I hope you did not get that old tirpe in a history class
http://www.snopes.com/history/govern/trains.asp
- DOCNM, on 11/21/2008, -0/+8why do people think that Mussolini would have been better than Hitler?
- P1nkF70yd, on 11/21/2008, -3/+3Because he wasn't genocidal?
- DOCNM, on 11/21/2008, -0/+5How was he not?
He actively collaborated with the genocidal effort.
Racism was widespread among if not supported by the fascist elite, antisemitic sentiments were promoted through government controlled media. Mussolini's regime instituted the mandatory registration of Jewish people, which enable successive raids and imprisoned and deported foreign Jewish residents. At the end of the day between 20% and 50% of Italian Jews died as a direct consequence of Mussolini actions.
- shipwreck58, on 11/21/2008, -3/+3If you have ever eaten actual Italian food in Italy, you wouldnt be saying that. What we know as Italian food in America, is in no way shape or form close to real Italian food.
- publiclurker, on 11/21/2008, -0/+6Funny, I find real Italian food to be much better than the Americanized version.
- breckinshire, on 11/21/2008, -0/+2So... "real" Italian food is awful?
- shagmin, on 11/21/2008, -0/+4You mean the guy that sent Italian forces to north Africa just to have some easy morale boosting victories which instead turned out to be an embarrassment?
- LogicBomB, on 11/21/2008, -0/+2Let Italians run the world? Too much noise polution, and I'm not even talking about their ricers.
- voisine, on 11/21/2008, -2/+5Why is everone so obsessed with Hitler? He was only the 3rd biggest mass murderer of the 20th century. Though not directly responsible, wouldn't it be easier to just kill Woodrow Wilson? That would stop Hitler, Stalin, and Mao, all in one go, and by extension, the korean and vietnam wars, and Castro among others. If we hadn't entered WWI and convinced the Czar to stay in so long that he was weakened to the point of the Bolshivics being able to overthrow him, no one would have ever even heard of Carl Marx, and the Versai treaty wouldn't have had the terms it did which is what enabled Hitler to come to power. Woodrow "Make the world safe for democracy" Wilson... that's who you need to eliminate.
- Corrosionx, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1Thank you for this moment of sane thought.
- zaferk, on 11/22/2008, -0/+1Nah, lets just go after the easy target!!!!!!!!111one!oneone!!eleven
- jme77, on 11/21/2008, -0/+17
- floridiot2, on 11/20/2008, -1/+145Everyone kills Hitler their first time.
- solid12345, on 11/21/2008, -0/+10Do you remember the night you first killed Hitler? I prematurely pulled the trigger unfortunately.
- AEnkryption, on 11/22/2008, -2/+0That's what she said.
- surian, on 11/21/2008, -0/+10I totally ripped Hitler to shreds in Wolfenstien 3D the first time I tried it.
- KarlH, on 11/21/2008, -0/+6In retaliation, Hitler kills all online discussions. Godwin's law.
- GawtMilk, on 11/21/2008, -0/+9GawtMilks law: as an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a smartass bringing up Godwin's law approaches one.
- staplemaniac, on 11/21/2008, -0/+8http://www.abyssandapex.com/200710-wikihistory.htm ...
- greenvortex, on 11/21/2008, -0/+4I'd check out the Crucifixion first, though I'm scared I might end up part of the story. I'd have to cut my hair and shave my beard first. Anyway, according Ron Mallett, a UConn physicist who dedicated his life to building a time machine so he could go back and save his father, the correct answer is: you can't go back in time to a point before the time machine was invented. That is also why we are not overrun by time tourists.
- solid12345, on 11/21/2008, -0/+10Do you remember the night you first killed Hitler? I prematurely pulled the trigger unfortunately.
- Hetman, on 11/20/2008, -0/+18I will have to say. Hitler seemed to have fate on his side. He survived WWI when the rest of his platoon died. And obviously he survived Claus von Stauffenberg bomb that was directly under his table. It is messed up, but really he should have died mutliple times and did not. But I guess you can probably say that about many people.
- Blackham, on 11/21/2008, -2/+5He survived ww1 because he was in hospital with mustered gas in eyes. Lucky boy.
- gianttoolbox11, on 11/21/2008, -0/+18I wish I was lucky enough to have mustard gas in my eyes.
- Ustanik, on 11/21/2008, -0/+4Yes, but prior to that he some how lived. He was a messenger, whos life expectancy was _very_ short, yet until he inhaled that gas he managed to not be killed while running messages (even surviving mustard gas was unlikely).
- solid12345, on 11/21/2008, -0/+8Actually he escaped death when he claims he heard a voice telling him to move over there, he did and suddenly an artillery shell blew up his whole platoon in the place he was sitting at.
One thing that irked me was that made for TV movie where they fudged history and made it look like Hitler whined and bitched to get a medal, i'm sorry but he DID earn that medal through bravery running messages, why do we have to change history, we already know he is an SOB from what he did later in life. They also portrayed him kicking his pet dog even though his writings show he loved that dog more than any human being. - chadsexingtime, on 11/21/2008, -0/+9Because as an american publication, it is completely impossible to show that any person who is capable of such acts can be honorable or even admirable in any other fashion.
The first problem is that it was a made for tv movie. Right there you should know that its probably going to cast hitler as a serial pedarapist who doesn't tip and tortures animals. - Hetman, on 11/21/2008, -0/+4The saying history is determined by the winner is true. I am sure if the Nazis had conquered the world. They would have shown hitler saving his entire platoon and doing other feats that he did not accomplish. I am with you on the fact that we need to look at history as accuratly as possible. But unfortunatly it is made by humans so their is an inherent bias to it.
- zaferk, on 11/22/2008, -0/+5I survived the holocaust and all I got was this lousy shirt
- rolf, on 11/21/2008, -0/+4Von Stauffenberg wasn't very smart - he put the suitcase in a location where several heavy table legs (this table was solid wood, oak I believ) ended up shielding the explosion from Hitler. Then he walked out of the room to blow it up on a timer. It's wasn't a super powerful bomb by modern standards.
The plot got him and 4,000+ 'coconspirators' killed by the regime in retaliation. If he was truly self-sacrificing, he would have walked up to Hitler with Suitcase and pushed a bomb trigger. Would have ended the Europeans side of the war 9 months earlier and many millions of people still alive on all sides.- covertbadger, on 11/21/2008, -0/+3"Von Stauffenberg wasn't very smart - he put the suitcase in a location where several heavy table legs (this table was solid wood, oak I believ) ended up shielding the explosion from Hitler."
He put his briefcase against the leg of Hitler's chair - he couldn't have got it any closer. The problem was that Hitler got up and paced around after von Stauffenberg left the room. - Ajzimm3rman, on 11/21/2008, -0/+3Ha!
Well Kudos to that psychic ass Hitler than!
- covertbadger, on 11/21/2008, -0/+3"Von Stauffenberg wasn't very smart - he put the suitcase in a location where several heavy table legs (this table was solid wood, oak I believ) ended up shielding the explosion from Hitler."
- LeonidasStokely, on 11/22/2008, -0/+1He had a series of luvky coincidences in his favour. 'Fate' is a weak interpretation of coincidental events.
- Blackham, on 11/21/2008, -2/+5He survived ww1 because he was in hospital with mustered gas in eyes. Lucky boy.
- pradvan, on 11/20/2008, -0/+9Good stuff, makes you think
- YawehsDead, on 11/21/2008, -1/+6I wouldn't kill him. Instead, I would simply remove him from his environment as an infant.
For a person to commit evil acts it takes two things: genes (physical composition of the person), and environment (physical composition of all else in relation to the person). Change one of the factors and you change the outcome. Unless you think that his genes were so messed up that he would have risen out of any situation and committed atrocities.
In any case, nothing, not even time travel, can undo the physical pain he already caused. It may create an alternate reality (that can run parallel to ours) where a better world will exist, but the negative events cannot truly be undone.
/just my opinion- mordeci, on 11/21/2008, -5/+1Name 1 real person that was raised in one environvemt and turned out evil. Then was raised in another environment and turned out good. Just one.
You pass this psychobabble off as fact, never once stating the obvious - that it's just your opinion. Except at the bottom, where you say it's just your opinion.
- mordeci, on 11/21/2008, -5/+1Name 1 real person that was raised in one environvemt and turned out evil. Then was raised in another environment and turned out good. Just one.
- YawehsDead, on 11/21/2008, -1/+6I wouldn't kill him. Instead, I would simply remove him from his environment as an infant.
- trolleyfan, on 11/20/2008, -0/+23Well, the easiest reason you "You Can't Travel Back in Time and Kill Hitler" is that you can't go back in time. It's also the only "safe" one, because any of the others brings in predestination and such and therefore makes it impossible for you to do *anything* that hasn't already been pre-planned for you to do...
...which is depressing as hell, at least, if it's been planned for you to be depressed..- YawehsDead, on 11/21/2008, -1/+4But that's not the only reason to believe that True Free Will doesn't actually exist.
I say ***** it, if the illusion is strong enough, there's no practical, day-to-day, difference.- adtthosa, on 11/21/2008, -0/+3Let's not get all philosophical here, I just finished an essay on this free will stuff, enough of it!
- trolleyfan, on 11/21/2008, -0/+3Yeah, but if you have no free will, well, you basically *had* to say that...
- disappointed, on 11/22/2008, -0/+3I don't think "I say ***** it" is getting "all philosophical".
But don't quote me.
- honthraj, on 11/21/2008, -2/+0We cannot go back in time since we currently lack the technology - yet had some other alien culture developed landing points utilizing worm holes in their past, then it would be possible, we just might have to travel a bit to get back to Planet Earth from wherever the landing point.
- SuperWinner, on 11/21/2008, -1/+5Wars are a necessary sorting out, if we had not had ww2 in 1939, we would have had it 10 years later, which would have been worse because we would have invested the bomb by then. Killing Hilter also does nothing because there were 10 guys behind him who would have happily taken his place and continued the war.
- rolf, on 11/21/2008, -0/+2Not really. The regime would have collapsed due to infighting. There was no strong charismatic person to take it over. It was built on Hitler's image and personality basically and without it, it was destined to just fall apart.
If you read the accounts of Himmler, Goebbels, Goering, Borman, etc - they were all players in their own right but none of them would be able to hold the regime together.
- rolf, on 11/21/2008, -0/+2Not really. The regime would have collapsed due to infighting. There was no strong charismatic person to take it over. It was built on Hitler's image and personality basically and without it, it was destined to just fall apart.
- detcaderr, on 11/21/2008, -0/+0Just think: If we ever developed time travel, there would be enough time in the future for plenty of idiots to escape to the past and screw things up. We would have heard of it by now.
- otros, on 11/22/2008, -0/+1Not if everyone but the time travel is unaware of the changes made, like in back to the future.
- YawehsDead, on 11/21/2008, -1/+4But that's not the only reason to believe that True Free Will doesn't actually exist.
- mmijatov, on 11/20/2008, -19/+41Hitler did it all to teach humanity a valuable lesson. And let me tell you something, Barack Obama and I sure as hell are going to think twice before committing genocide, unlike the Bush administration.
-Joe Biden- Scrappy1850, on 11/21/2008, -2/+12genocide? you may want to look up the definition of that
- salinemist, on 11/21/2008, -9/+1It's ok, they're only going to get rid of white people and anyone who's ever voted Republican.
- FeartheKnighted, on 11/21/2008, -6/+23Jesus we elected a moron as VP.
- surian, on 11/21/2008, -4/+17Well, it's a step in the right direction from the Bush administration where we had a Moron as the President and a sadistic batman villain as the VP.
- lis880, on 11/22/2008, -0/+2Well I'm sorry we couldn't avoid it this time.
- Gooba, on 11/21/2008, -0/+5Got a link to where he said that, there has got to be some context.
- Rippleeffect, on 11/21/2008, -2/+1How come I missed that jewel during the election? wow =D
- facelesscoward, on 11/21/2008, -0/+5You just made that quote up completely. Jeez, Diggers are gullible.
- Corrosionx, on 11/21/2008, -0/+2They'll think twice but they'll still do it.
- LilRabbitFooFoo, on 11/22/2008, -0/+3I have to agree that wiping out a half a million+ innocent Iraqi civilians is a war crime. And since they were obliterated simply because they were Iraqi, that fits one of the definitions of genocide.
You go, fake Joe! - japanesepagoda, on 11/22/2008, -0/+3"Oh there you go again Joe, always going back to the past"
--Sarah Palin
During the Vice Presidential Debate. - Velnich, on 11/22/2008, -0/+3"I eat terrorist babies for dinner."
- Bush
Making up quotes is easy.
- Scrappy1850, on 11/21/2008, -2/+12genocide? you may want to look up the definition of that
- fluidfoundation, on 11/21/2008, -1/+95Ok, so maybe you can't kill Hitler,
but maybe if you were alive in the 1940's, you can "leap" into him, and with the help of Al put right what once went wrong... hoping that the next leap... will be the leap home...
But Ziggy say's there's only a 12% chance of that.- Cenobia, on 11/21/2008, -3/+15Win
- 4degrees, on 11/21/2008, -0/+22Oh boy...
- Scrappy1850, on 11/21/2008, -0/+15ziggy was always changing the percentages. all you had to do was smack it and something new came out of it.
- mojoel, on 11/21/2008, -0/+15Watch out!! Al is a Cylon!
- Suricou, on 11/21/2008, -2/+3I just tried to google my favourate Quantum Leap quote - Al's inability to say 'breasts.'
The fan fiction... it burns...
QL/Sliders slash? AAAGGGHH!!!!- fluidfoundation, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1Whoa, settle down, beavis.
- Nhoji, on 11/21/2008, -1/+1SCOTT BAKULA.
- jmcneilly, on 11/21/2008, -0/+7The past is the past. It was an awful past with blood and terror and unspeakable acts, but let it remain where it is; the past. Let's just try to keep the future from repeating the past. We may not be able to change the past, but we can certainly make the future.
- Radan, on 11/21/2008, -0/+2Well, we are not doing pretty well on that topic so far, though.
- dha07030, on 11/21/2008, -0/+42***** that I am trying anyway. If you want to come with me you must bring your own weapons. Safety not guaranteed.
- floridiot2, on 11/21/2008, -0/+32Wait.. have you done this only once before?
- carbonfree314, on 11/21/2008, -1/+7I wish I could digg you up fifty times over.
- floridiot2, on 11/21/2008, -0/+32Wait.. have you done this only once before?
- floridiot2, on 11/21/2008, -1/+16What if I'm actually Hitler and I go back in time to lead Germany in a time of depression?
- footodors, on 11/21/2008, -6/+22If it worked and they killed Hitler, imagine how many jews there would be in the world now! Geez!
- 4degrees, on 11/21/2008, -5/+5would have to find a new guilt trip to lay on folks...
- YawehsDead, on 11/21/2008, -2/+5yeah, that's what this is about, guilt trips..
What a ***** asswipe. - 4degrees, on 11/21/2008, -1/+3maybe finding a sense of humor would be more important... :-
- zaferk, on 11/22/2008, -0/+2your name (YawehsDead) and your pro-jewish comment confuses me
- YawehsDead, on 11/21/2008, -2/+5yeah, that's what this is about, guilt trips..
- YawehsDead, on 11/21/2008, -4/+1fail(?)
- dilbert, on 11/21/2008, -2/+8Then Israel would still be called Palestine.
Edit: RealHyperX beat me to it. - nj10ii, on 11/21/2008, -0/+2Retard, it did work!! Why do you think Hitler is now dead? Because in the parallel universe he won the ***** war and ruled the world! Until we went back and convinced the US and Briton to invade Germany!
Of course the Germans also developed this technology (actually we kidnapped their engineers and stole it, but lets not split hairs here) and in their parallel worlds they've gone back and made it right with their vision of things, there is no Jews and everyone else has to wear funny mustaches and sprechen de deutch, and eat saur kraut, but Oktoberfest is a worldwide holiday and its a blast.
- 4degrees, on 11/21/2008, -5/+5would have to find a new guilt trip to lay on folks...
- jcaffoe, on 11/21/2008, -1/+27Can someone explain to me why all the Germans in the Valkyrie trailer have british accents?
- wedges, on 11/21/2008, -2/+33To an American audience, any foreign accent will do.
- PennFarmer, on 11/21/2008, -1/+11British Intelligence had actually infiltrated Hitler's inner circle to a degree not previously admitted by either side.
- imperfectepoch, on 11/21/2008, -0/+12Same reason why actors in Les Misérables generally sound British. Also any evil person (see Star Wars). Foreign + Evil = Double British Accents.
- anixmander, on 11/21/2008, -0/+2So your saying al Brits are naturally evil?
I thought that was just Amy Winehouse. - wpc33, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1 Your Rrrrreb-ell frrrriENDS
- anixmander, on 11/21/2008, -0/+2So your saying al Brits are naturally evil?
- surian, on 11/21/2008, -0/+4Because we in America still equate a British accent to the Revolutionary War.
- jitterbits, on 11/22/2008, -0/+1Yeah, we're still pretty Anglophobic here in the states. Even if the villain doesn't have a british accent, he often will have a british sounding name (the name Randall comes to mind immediately)
You'd think we'd have gotten over it by now. - mishangelle, on 11/22/2008, -0/+1Make that any movie based on any country in Europe, at any point in that country's time, that they are speaking all in English.. will pretty much be in a British accent. ALWAYS.
Including medieval fantasy. Why? No idea.- LeonidasStokely, on 11/22/2008, -0/+1I like how the accents on Lord of the Rings and others like it are some weird combination of posh English, Irish, Cornish and Scandinavian. See Viggo Mortenson in particular.
- LeonidasStokely, on 11/22/2008, -0/+1Brian Cox said on Top Gear that the reason for this is that Americans distrust intelligence.
- anixmander, on 11/24/2008, -0/+0Yeah, cause we all know just how intelligent a Cockney accent sounds.
- Huangism, on 11/21/2008, -7/+1hitleer is also invincinble
- Gonz037, on 11/21/2008, -0/+2I killed him on my commadore 64 when I was 8.
- xsquirrel378x, on 11/21/2008, -12/+17Hitler did great things for Germany. gawd you guys always have to see the glass half empty
- slvrbullet87, on 11/21/2008, -3/+11If Hittler ended world hunger while creating full-blown virtual reality and cured cancer, AIDS, and the common cold, and was nice enough to get a porn star to suck my dick while handing me stacks of hundred dollar bills i would still think he is the biggest piece of ***** who ever lived.
- FreddieD, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1You'd *really* think he was the biggest piece of ***** when you find out that porn star he sent over to give you a blow job was Peter North...
- zaferk, on 11/22/2008, -0/+1lets not get all sensational over it..
- venomoushealer, on 11/21/2008, -2/+4He did do good things for Germany. He also did bad things for the rest of the world. I see the glass as neither half full nor half empty, merely a cylinder in which there are equal amounts of water and non-water.
- surian, on 11/21/2008, -4/+5That *REALLY* depends on your vantage point as a German. I would have to believe that the German Jews, Gypsies, Catholics, Homosexuals, (list goes on), might have a different opinion on the subject.
Unless of course by "Great Things" you actually mean "purifying" the blood of the German people. In that case, yes he did "Great Things". Unfortunately you would also be a giant douche. - dha07030, on 11/21/2008, -1/+8It was a joke people.
- CommanderEFG, on 11/21/2008, -0/+4As bad as this sounds WWII brought most of our technology we take for granted because they were developed at exponential rates during that time period. Think about it: Rockets, jet powered planes, nuclear power, computers, radar, methods of communications and other amazing things we might of not had for many decades if it wasn't for WWII.
Also WWII did bring Germany, the US, and many other industrialized nations out of the depression from the 30s.- CedEx, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1So what's you're saying is that we need to have WWIII to get us out of this economic mess?
- Griminald, on 11/21/2008, -0/+2My high school history teacher once told me that if Hitler never got power-hungry, because of all the things he did for Germany prior to WW2, he'd have died a hero. But when your idea to get your country out of its hole is to mass-build your country's military and restore morale by finding a "good" scapegoat, I'm not sure there could've been any other conclusion.
- jitterbits, on 11/22/2008, -0/+1"But when your idea to get your country out of its hole is to mass-build your country's military and restore morale by finding a "good" scapegoat, I'm not sure there could've been any other conclusion."
Interesting. Verrrry interesting.
- jitterbits, on 11/22/2008, -0/+1"But when your idea to get your country out of its hole is to mass-build your country's military and restore morale by finding a "good" scapegoat, I'm not sure there could've been any other conclusion."
- slvrbullet87, on 11/21/2008, -3/+11If Hittler ended world hunger while creating full-blown virtual reality and cured cancer, AIDS, and the common cold, and was nice enough to get a porn star to suck my dick while handing me stacks of hundred dollar bills i would still think he is the biggest piece of ***** who ever lived.
- LeadStripes, on 11/21/2008, -0/+18Even without Hitler, there would've been a party similar to the nazis.
There was a lot of dissatisfaction among Germans caused by losing World War I and the Versailles Treaty.
A totalitarian dictatorship was almost inevitable.- sanosuke001, on 11/21/2008, -0/+4So instead of going back and killing Hitler, we should go back, slap King George V in his fat head and tell him to not condemn the Germans to *****, help them rebuild, and become a upstanding citizen in the global economy?
...nah. That wouldn't work. - yacks, on 11/21/2008, -0/+3If only Europe took heed to Wilson's Points..Europe wanted to punish germany and look where it led.
- sanosuke001, on 11/21/2008, -0/+4So instead of going back and killing Hitler, we should go back, slap King George V in his fat head and tell him to not condemn the Germans to *****, help them rebuild, and become a upstanding citizen in the global economy?
- leif77, on 11/21/2008, -0/+10Louis CK nails it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu9q4sM1vmc
- RealHyperX, on 11/21/2008, -2/+9If they killed Hitler, I doubt Israel would be formed by the coalition. You would probably have less issues with traditional Arab terrorists (maybe I am wrong here).
- nj10ii, on 11/21/2008, -1/+1You're not wrong.
- myfreepress, on 11/21/2008, -3/+7You are wrong. History, if you read a bit, will show you that the Muslim religion has been killing 'infidels' for longer than the past 60 years.
The words in the Marine song, "from the shores of Tripoli"? America having to deal with Muslim terror in the form of Piracy. That was the terror of the day...
Blaming the jews for Muslim Terror is a no different that blaming German Nazis on the Jews.
Wrong.- RealHyperX, on 11/21/2008, -1/+1I am not blaming anything on Jews. I am just saying without Israel you would not have as much terrorist activity, since one of the thorns in the middle east, according to Arabs, is Israel.
- Corrosionx, on 11/21/2008, -1/+1The zionists wanted Israel for a long time. Hitler was just a faster way to get there.
- steger, on 11/21/2008, -0/+12Time to bust out the Wolfenstein 3d.
- wedges, on 11/21/2008, -1/+111) Time travel is impossible
2) If you went back in time and killed Hitler, he would have appeared to you to have been dead the whole time, and you never would have felt the need to go back in time to kill him. A paradox.
3) Alternatively, assuming branching realities, you could go back and kill Hitler, but upon returning to your time things would appear to be normal, since your action created a branching timeline. That's just silly, though.- shotgunefx, on 11/21/2008, -0/+51. I don't think man will every travel back in time, but I'm not so sure it's impossible. I base this on absolutely nothing.
2. I think you could game that, you would just have to plan before hand (in the past) instructing your "future self" to go back and why, and to leave the same instructions.
Though I think the world would probably be such a different place, there would be a hell of a good chance that you weren't born, so probably 3. - roddack, on 11/21/2008, -0/+41) not if you have a flux capacitor
- Orlandin, on 11/21/2008, -1/+1Exactly. I have heard it called the Grandfather theory. If you tried to keep someone from existing by killing their grandfather, then the person would not have existed, hence you would not have felt the urge to kill the grandfather, and it would not have happened.
- gotjpeg, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1Well true but then if you did it would create either a paradox or the branching theory where if you killed him big deal now you've just entered a reality where you killed your grandfather before your father was ever conceived and time still goes on.
But then again maybe the grandfather wasn't really the grandfather but was you!!! Like the futurama episode. - CedEx, on 11/21/2008, -1/+0What if you randomly killed people? What then?
- gotjpeg, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1Well true but then if you did it would create either a paradox or the branching theory where if you killed him big deal now you've just entered a reality where you killed your grandfather before your father was ever conceived and time still goes on.
- aliendisaster, on 11/21/2008, -1/+0While I agree with 1 and 2, 3 kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Again, time travel is most likely impossible but, if it were and branching realities was the result of changing the past, I'd assume you'd see the hitler-dead reality. Once you killed hitler, you would be in the new reality so when you return, I'd assume, you'd return in the new reality which may result in you having a duplicate you (assuming you'd even exist in the new reality) and other issues.
- surian, on 11/21/2008, -0/+2Actually, #3 (branching realities) is not only plausible but is a very real consequence of a lot of the current research being done in quantum physics and string theory. I'm not saying it's definitely true, but it has most certainly left the realm of being "silly" and entered the realm of being considered a very real possibility.
- sanosuke001, on 11/21/2008, -1/+1The way I see it is that if The Law of Conservation of Energy is true, then the energy occupying our moment in time is finite, then me traveling back in time would take my energy, subtract it from this moment, and add it to another moment; effectively destroying energy now and creating it in the past.
Unless all moments in time are on one bing lump, then there's infinite energy (unless time stops) where it wouldn't be an issue.
Though, I think the first thought is much more possible. You would need infinite energy to move something through time. Since there isn't infinite energy, it's impossible.- otros, on 11/22/2008, -0/+1The way you see it The law of conservation of energy is a function of time (assumed from the "unless all moments in..." line). If you change the way we understand time, introducing time travel, the most likely scenario is that The law of conservation of energy would change also.
- Radan, on 11/21/2008, -0/+2Well, number 3 is not necessary true. I'd say the most logical outcome would be that if you would be to travel forth in time you would still travel within this newly created reality, thus Hitler would still be dead when you arrive in your default time.
However, doing this also implies adding more matter or energy to the new reality and removing as much from your old reality, which is impossible.
In the end, it all comes down to bullet 1). - painting, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1this is why Heroes makes absolutely no sense. If the Heroes saved the world by going into the future and seeing what happened the apocalypse. Then that just means they failed at the present.
- Poseur117, on 11/22/2008, -0/+2Heroes is a ***** show before you consider its plot holes.
- Troy64, on 11/21/2008, -0/+3I thought all of this time travel stuff was explained in Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.
- shotgunefx, on 11/21/2008, -0/+51. I don't think man will every travel back in time, but I'm not so sure it's impossible. I base this on absolutely nothing.
- kevdotbadger, on 11/21/2008, -0/+2Nazi zombies?
- jitterbits, on 11/22/2008, -0/+1Worst Case Scenario:
on this beach, the only good german is a living german
http://www.gorehoundinc.com/
- jitterbits, on 11/22/2008, -0/+1Worst Case Scenario:
- compsciguy, on 11/21/2008, -5/+1buried for "when he does effect events in the past"
affect- PennFarmer, on 11/21/2008, -1/+2In this case, effect could actually work since he appears to have been unable to actually accomplish anything in the past. Once he does, he could be said to have effected (i.e. caused or initiated) an event. If it is used as a verb rather than as a noun it would be correct.
- boneit, on 11/21/2008, -0/+4Dave Lister will foil you.
- celotil, on 11/21/2008, -0/+3"I nicked his briefcase ..."
- zimmermans, on 11/21/2008, -2/+15Einstein did it in "Red Alert", but then the Stalin became the problem...
- Rippleeffect, on 11/21/2008, -0/+3FTA
- WoundedCow, on 11/21/2008, -0/+2From the book Mind War: What is, is.
- surian, on 11/21/2008, -0/+2From The Hitchhiker's Guide to The Galaxy's "Mostly Harmless":
* Anything that happens, happens.
* Anything that, in happening, causes something else to happen, causes something else to happen.
* Anything that, in happening, causes itself to happen again, happens again.
* It doesn't necessarily do it in chronological order, though.
- surian, on 11/21/2008, -0/+2From The Hitchhiker's Guide to The Galaxy's "Mostly Harmless":
- HappyMonk, on 11/21/2008, -0/+3lol imagination is great.
- kinerry, on 11/21/2008, -0/+5The only thing you could ever do was make sure he got accepted into art school so he wouldn't hate jews
- FuckTheNWO311, on 11/21/2008, -11/+2I wish we could so Zionists wouldn't be anywhere near Zion...or super sensitive about everything that involves Jews...
Zionists are bat ***** crazy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqUqELDUBr4 - Scira, on 11/21/2008, -0/+5Every time you touch yourself, god kills a Hitler?
- 4degrees, on 11/21/2008, -0/+4maybe killing hitler in the past would bring rise to hilter in the 70's... ;-)
- elperegrino, on 11/21/2008, -0/+6Saturday Night Hitler
- jmcneilly, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1Hippy Hitler? Brings new meaning to burning the Jews...
- 4degrees, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1monty python joke fail... :-(
- Rudegar, on 11/21/2008, -2/+2i traveled back in time the other day to kill hitler but he 0wned my @ss and handed it back to me
and all i could take back with me to our time was this tshirt saying hitlers biatch :S
suspect he used a transparent wall hack!- wdw25, on 11/21/2008, -0/+0Was there a little mustache tuft on the back, right above your anus?
- BXRWXR, on 11/21/2008, -0/+17But can I travel back in time and kill Tom Cruise?
- xsquirrel378x, on 11/21/2008, -1/+8At least do it after 1983. I don't care what anyone says, Risky Business is an awesome movie
- solid12345, on 11/21/2008, -0/+2But then we would have no Heidi Klum Guitar Her commercial...
- d3dm, on 11/21/2008, -0/+8Or at a minimum go back a few years and slap some sense into Katie Holmes.
- xsquirrel378x, on 11/21/2008, -1/+8At least do it after 1983. I don't care what anyone says, Risky Business is an awesome movie
- pradvan, on 11/21/2008, -0/+3http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predestination_parado ...
- stronglikedan, on 11/21/2008, -0/+3Wow, and here I always thought you couldn't do it because time travel was impossible. Silly me.
- cory849, on 11/21/2008, -0/+0Amateurs.
I went back in time and killed Pazdernak just last week. It was easy. - JackCrow, on 11/21/2008, -0/+7SilverFox316 will stop you every time.
- Target91, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1That little story was good, I don't suppose you still have the link?
- emptyo, on 11/21/2008, -0/+7Sounds like the hot ticket is not to go back and kill Hitler, but go back in time to give the Allied forces better weapons and strategic info so they can win those battles more quickly. Like, we're playing with CoD: Modern Warfare, and they are still stuck with CoD: World at War.
That would rule.- MrSticky, on 11/21/2008, -1/+2Dugg for the superior CoD4
- MeatMountain, on 11/21/2008, -0/+4If you did that then there would be no check on Russian power in the first half of the century and we'd all be writing in those crazy backwards characters. Now excuse me while I fill in this captcha.
- slapded, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1you could go back in time and kill hitler, but you would be in a different parallel world. im sure theres a world out there where im a pimp with a bedazzled cup and a diamond covered mercedes.. but i have yet to find that portal.
- Netik09, on 11/21/2008, -1/+1Even if time travel were possible, you can't KNOWINGLY change the past. If you go back and successfully tell yourself to not be fat, then you would have never been fat to begin with, hence, never having a reason to go back in time to tell yourself not to be fat. Paradox in your face!
- nj10ii, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1With the multiverse theory the grandfather paradox is solved. You could kill him an infinite number of times, in an infinite number of parallel universes.
- yacks, on 11/21/2008, -1/+1Well you can go back in time, get your grandfather killed and then sleep with your grandmother to become your own grandfather.
- nj10ii, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1With the multiverse theory the grandfather paradox is solved. You could kill him an infinite number of times, in an infinite number of parallel universes.
- cloviejr, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1Buried for inaccuracy. Vandal Savage didn't travel back in time, he sent a laptop computer with historical information and advanced weapon plans back in time for his past self to find. In fact, the design of his time machine prevents him from traveling to any era where he already exists. Man, did they even watch that episode?
- THESUPERDEVIL, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1The League first encounters Savage in the three-part episode "The Savage Time", when he manages to alter history and cause Nazi Germany to win World War II. The League (minus Batman, who was in the Watchtower at the time) is unaffected by the temporal change, as they are protected by Green Lantern's energy while he guides their space ship in for docking (this would still be considered a plot hole, since if Savage had won before the Justice League was formed, then the Watchtower would not have existed in the first place. But it is seen that the watchtower disappears instantly after the time-altering energy wave, which would mean that all aspects of the timeline are affected except those protected by Green Lantern's ring). They arrive back on Earth to find it ruled by Savage's fascist dictatorship. With the aid of this timeline's version of Batman, the League travels back in time to learn that Savage sent to his younger self a laptop containing schematics for advanced weapons technology, as well as information on the future plans of the Allies. This allowed Savage to catapult himself to the top of the Axis authority, deposing Adolf Hitler and assuming the title of Führer. When Savage mounts a jet-powered aerial invasion of America, the League manages to stop his invasion force with the aid of the American Navy and the Blackhawks, and causes Savage's plane to crash into the Atlantic Ocean. Hitler is restored to power in time for D-Day to succeed. Savage is not explicitly stated to be immortal in these episodes, but it is implied on two occasions. When Martian Manhunter sees a recording of the future Savage, he comments to the identical younger version that he ages gracefully; Savage replies that he has "no idea." Later, when Green Lantern has Savage cornered on his flagship, Savage dares the hero to try to kill him without any traces of fear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGfFzeZEVBo&feature ...
- THESUPERDEVIL, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1The League first encounters Savage in the three-part episode "The Savage Time", when he manages to alter history and cause Nazi Germany to win World War II. The League (minus Batman, who was in the Watchtower at the time) is unaffected by the temporal change, as they are protected by Green Lantern's energy while he guides their space ship in for docking (this would still be considered a plot hole, since if Savage had won before the Justice League was formed, then the Watchtower would not have existed in the first place. But it is seen that the watchtower disappears instantly after the time-altering energy wave, which would mean that all aspects of the timeline are affected except those protected by Green Lantern's ring). They arrive back on Earth to find it ruled by Savage's fascist dictatorship. With the aid of this timeline's version of Batman, the League travels back in time to learn that Savage sent to his younger self a laptop containing schematics for advanced weapons technology, as well as information on the future plans of the Allies. This allowed Savage to catapult himself to the top of the Axis authority, deposing Adolf Hitler and assuming the title of Führer. When Savage mounts a jet-powered aerial invasion of America, the League manages to stop his invasion force with the aid of the American Navy and the Blackhawks, and causes Savage's plane to crash into the Atlantic Ocean. Hitler is restored to power in time for D-Day to succeed. Savage is not explicitly stated to be immortal in these episodes, but it is implied on two occasions. When Martian Manhunter sees a recording of the future Savage, he comments to the identical younger version that he ages gracefully; Savage replies that he has "no idea." Later, when Green Lantern has Savage cornered on his flagship, Savage dares the hero to try to kill him without any traces of fear.
- chrissku, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1According to this scientific theory Hitler was killed before he came to power in a parallel universe. Very interesting. Well worth watching.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_vpEyE6rug - bodaciousllama, on 11/21/2008, -2/+2Hitler: I accidentally the Holocaust. Is this bad?
- snurfie, on 11/21/2008, -1/+5Reminds me of http://www.abyssandapex.com/200710-wikihistory.htm ...
- jun2san, on 11/21/2008, -1/+2I logged on so I can post this article. You beat me to it. Probably the funniest/best written piece on why you can't time travel and kill Hitler.
- Kosh, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1It's also referenced in the dugg article..
- ckmorita, on 11/21/2008, -0/+2Time travel stories/movies drive me nuts because it becomes an anything can happen scenario.
- steevo, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1If you could go back in time and kill Hitler it would be irresponsible to because you have no idea what effect that would have, killing Hitler could end up being worse than letting him live and rise to power in Germany
- otros, on 11/22/2008, -0/+1Nothing stops you from going back again until you hit the jackpot.
- Akiranika, on 11/27/2008, -0/+0Yes, one possible outcome.
- balilanai, on 11/21/2008, -1/+7Buried because the movie stars Tom Cruise
- kenyadoit, on 11/22/2008, -1/+2I was watching the trailer with some friends last week, and my friend said "you know what's going to make this movie suck?", I was about to ask what, but the scene with Tom Cruise answered that question.
- yurishoujo, on 11/21/2008, -0/+4http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0MVuWDc5RQ .....Because even Captain Planet can't stand up to the Hitler HATE BEAM!!! What chance do mere time traveling mortals have?
- CarStan, on 11/21/2008, -0/+2greatest.video.ever
- MiDri, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1Why does Hitler have an old china men mustache?
- jitterbits, on 11/22/2008, -0/+1He's incognito.
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